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ceiling? >> exactly. and that's the point, right? we don't really have a debt ceiling, so let's not pretend that we do. you know what i mean. anyway, still to come on the show, u.p.s., will the shipping giant deliver? we'll talk about that. ♪ [ male announcer ] make your escape... twice as rewarding. earn double points or double miles on all your hotel stays through march thirty first. sign up now at hidouble.com. >>> welcome back to "worldwide exchange." sap tander and deutsche are hit by big charges. >>> british stocks are falling after disappointing numbers from shell and warning of a tough year ahead from astrazeneca. >> shell shares are down today after the oil and gas giant reported a 13% jump in fourth quarter profits. it was shy of forecast. the company has pledged to boost the dividend after posting adjusted cps earnings of $5.6 billion of adjusted eps of 49.8 cents. in a first on cnbc interview, shell ceo peter voses sounded fairly confident. he cited the firm's cash position. >> shell is in a very good situation at the moment. we are actually long in opportunities
to increase the debt ceiling every time it's reached, refuse to raise it at some point and don't know? you can see 86% are saying that congress will raise the debt ceiling every time it's reached this year, when i think about some of the reasons why stocks have gotten higher because i think that thread along with the fiscal cliff has come out of the market and that there's overwhelming sentiment that coss i solve the get problem. we asked wall street to grade our treasury secretary going out and one coming in. you can see a pretty strong sentiment that he was a seed secretary with a 2.2. jack lew, the sentiment there. 2.0. one more thing on the deficit i just want to say and maybe this is worthy of discussion here. i think this is a sign that things have improved, at these economists and guys on wall street are saying we should solve the deficit and do it now. i think if things were as bad as they were say the last couple years there might be less sense that we urgently need to fix the deficit problem. mike england from action economics said if we don't solve it now we'll get to the next cycle
think it will pass. and it give, i think, some certainty on this specific question of the debt ceiling and the question of default, because we know from 2011, the adverse impact 2,000 points in the -- that the dow lost. we know the consumer confidence took a six-month hit because of the debt ceiling fight. so, to take that off the table as a big washington fight helps a lot, i think. >> certainly, the markets, a lot of people pointing to one reason, you have had a pretty nice string of gains here that debate, at least the deadline pushed back a bit. where does the conversation now begin when it comes to real reform? who instigate it is and how constructive do you think it's going to be? >> i think we can build upon some of the previous efforts. we had an agreement in 2011 which allowed us to reduce spending and we can do that again. at the end to of this year so the called fiscal cliff deal i think was further evidence when you get 89 united states senators voting for that end of the year agree respect, the deal was perfect and had all kinds of frustrations associated with it, but we h
this week. >> it may. not a hoppyist headwind. the debt ceiling debate has been delayed for three months no. reason why the market can't keep running at this point just because there's no obvious catalyst to run into, but at some point, whether it's the revenue growth or something out of washington, you know, i think we'll -- we're due for a pause if not outright correction. >> fundamentals matter. >> sooner or later they do. >> please, go ahead. >> just going to mention two cautionary notes here. even though i'm pretty constructive on the economy i'll give you a good reason to worry about april sis the sequestering right? i think markets have gotten very comfortable with the washington dysfunction going on because they keep going up at the deadline and then fix the problem without damage to the economy and my sense is sequester happening, $100 billion out of the economy, is actually on the high side and i don't think that's built into the market and the other thing, the last time the market was at these levels, the size of the economy was only a little bit smaller than it was now, profits
, debt ceiling. on the other hand, despite all of that liquidity, we have mediocre employment growth, manufacturing data, while it has improved is still around that recessionary line of 50 and to your point around m2 that's very interesting and yet we're still at record low velocity of money. that's very scary. all this money pumped into the system is sitting on the balance sheets of banks, corporations. >> nominal gdp is starting to rise. >> slowly. >> what about the information revolution? now, you made an important point. so far why should raise taxes on investors, terrible idea. i'm hoping do no harm, maybe some small spending cuts so that's not going to be a factor. i don't see a debt default. i think that's off the table. what blt american energy revolution, what about the growth, what about the cheap natural gas and what about how that makes america so competitive? i'm only talking 2.5% growth, not 3%, 4, 5% growth. >> the fertilizer trusts are on fires. ammonia is going to be cheap, that's terrific. but here's a factoid for you. kmn's exports to asia are up 20% year on year.
the dysfunction in washington as much as we were even though we do have the debt ceiling fight on the horizon. that's taken a back seat to this momentum in stocks. >> yeah, absolutely. i think that investors should be braced for a potential pullback, but trying to trade it i think is perilous. look, would i have expected a fairly significant pullback in december based on the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff debate. it didn't happen. i think that we were at that time telling our clients to look through the potential weakness and focus on the value and the fact that equities are very likely to be higher in a year from now, concentrate on the longer run, invest, don't trade and we think you'll be well served by that. >> give me your best idea right here then, eric. >> well, i think equities. simply the equity trade. >> what do you remember want to do, etfs, my spector sectors, etfs, how do you do it? >> very broadly. we're an active manager and use a multi-manager approach so we're broadly diversified across countries. emerging markets looks better than developed and procyclical stocks look bette
at hand right now. >> right. >> that being the debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling is a big issue. the fiscal cliff was a big issue on the tax side. we've extended the debt ceiling to may. that really could be july. i don't know that they represent the risks that a lot of people thought was represented in august 2011 heading into it. we realize hindsight, yields did not spike dramatically. we didn't get a massive number of investors whether it was institutions, pension funds that were forced out of treasuries. because of that aaa rating gone. i think we learned some lessons. but i still think unfortunately washington and the ranker and the political system remains one of them. >> it sounds you're not as worried about washington. >> we're sadly becoming immune to their antics. >> we'll leave it there. good to see you. thank you so much. >>> about ten minutes to go before we close it up on monday on wall street here. dow jones industrial average still hanging in just below 13,900. >>> well, it has been the feud that continues to be the buzz on wall street. >> and in 2003 i get a cal
backed off that so you didn't get that outcome. at the same time, they've pushed off the debt ceiling for a few months. so the body language out of washington has been more constellatory. so when you get to this point where you think about what the deficit might look like this year, i don't think you're going to be looking at a balanced budget so soon. you can't sustain trillion dollar deficiter year after year after year doubling the debt so many years and still think that the market is going to accept that over time. they know the market needs to move away from this, but it's going to away longer process. >> kevin and mike will be with us for the rest of the hour. >> and it's time for the global markets report. kelly evans is standing by in london. i could string up a lot of thing to talk to you about, kelly. you're very close to davos. i don't know. we -- i don't really feel like i've missed anything, really. but you're still close. you could have jetted over there easily and joined in with, you know, john legend and charlie thero this e, andrew ross sorkin. >> i was hoping maybe s
is expected to vote this afternoon on a bill to suspend the debt ceiling for three months, following the house. this would allow more house for debate on the fiscal issues we're facing. the senate version includes several republican amendments, though, including matching spending cuts for every dollar increase in the debt ceiling. those amendments expected to be defeated. the bill won't technically raise the debt ceiling, but it will suspend it until may 19th when it will be raised by the amount that the treasury borrows in the interim. that's how it's going to work. and markets, as we've been talking about on a tear this month with the dow having its best january in decades. but will yesterday's surprising drop in gdp reign in the bulls, it says here? let's get a read on the state of the economy. at least it wasn't a -- that kind of rein. there's three of them. anyway, joining us for the next hour is bob bruska. that's fao -- >> no. you cannot. >> fao economics. as becky said at the top, things are going to go really well or the market is going to have an '87 crash. >> i like the binary outlo
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